Taylor Gaines is joined by Ty Commons and “Survivor” castaway Joe Del Campo to talk about navigating his way through a season with people who were decades younger than him, eating too much after his fatal reward win, the intensity and sometimes hilarity of his FBI days, and learning how to love life in the face of tragedy.

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As always, thanks to Levi Bradford for the theme song. You can find his music at poblano.bandcamp.com.