Taylor Gaines and Tyler B. Commons slither through the dirt of Episode Four of “Survivor 35: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers.” They debate which of the new tribes is the strongest, whether this season has been good or bad, and whether Cole is terrible at “Survivor.” They also break down a wild Tribal Council and update the Fantasy Survivor standings.

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As always, thanks to Levi Bradford for the theme song. You can find his music at poblano.bandcamp.com.